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Geeklog 1.3 vs. Other Weblogs

Tuesday, December 18 2001 @ 12:35 pm EST
Contributed by: Tony
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Not too long ago this article ran here and it was a *very* hot topic. I figured with the release of Geeklog 1.3 this would be a good time to revisit how the new version of Geeklog stacks up to the other weblogs. I want to use your input, in part, to help figure out how us developers can make the 2.0 planning process more productive so that we get all the pertinent features into the 2.0 design.

So, how does Geeklog stack-up? What is missing? What needs improvement? And what does Geeklog do well that we want to preserve in future releases?

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PHP-Nuke database converter

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Thursday, December 20 2001 @ 09:08 pm EST

You seem to be making Geeklog more modular and allowing for third party plugins, so mostly it's a matter of carrying on as you are.

One feature that would be nice, is a script that will allow users to upgrade from PHP-Nuke more easily.

As far as I can tell, anyone who wishes to make the switch has to dump their existing PHP-Nuke database and add the data from their existing articles into Geeklog manually.

I know automating this process would make life much simpler for those that have existing PHP-Nuke sites, as I fall into that category myself.

In case you're wondering, I chose PHP-Nuke over Geeklog, because at the time there wasn't an integrated forum for Geeklog.

Now that there is, I'd like to switch to Geeklog, which I was more impressed with anyway.

Post edit for users

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Thursday, December 20 2001 @ 09:26 pm EST

There doesn't seem to be an option for users to edit their own posts once they have been submitted to the site.

Is this something that could be added easily, or is there a reason it isn't implemented?

Comment System

Authored by: Tony on Friday, December 21 2001 @ 07:06 am EST

Yeah, that should be doable. It\'s just been something that has never been implemented. The comment engine in Geeklog, though usable and generally designed OK, didn\'t take into consideration that comments can happen to things other than polls and stories. In our 2.0 sytem, comments are very generic and they will have security on them the same way stories/links/events/etc do in Geeklog 1.3.

I\'ll see if we can give some sort of edit link in a pre-2.0 release...just depends on how much time I get ;-)

As for the Nuke/Post-Nuke/PHPWeblog/etc port...I\'d love to see people write converters plugins for them. It\'s going to have to come from someone outside the core GL development group, though, so we can focus on making Geeklog better.

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Comment System

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Saturday, December 22 2001 @ 07:48 pm EST

It would definitely be useful for comments on stories when you wish to add something trivial without creating another post.

The preview is good for checking for typos etc. but doesn't help if you suddenly remember you wanted to say something else just after hitting the submit button.

As long as the comment gets marked with an "Edited by whoever at some time on some day" type message as most forums do with edited posts, it should be clear that editing has taken place.

Geeklog isn't the only system of this type that doesn't allow users to edit comments though - in fact I haven't seen any that do.

I'm just used to forums I guess.

One school\'s wish list

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Friday, December 21 2001 @ 05:11 pm EST

Hey, you\'ve ben doing great work! I took 20+ hours over a weekend just to install PostNuke, and another 20+ hours to tweek this, that, and the other thing. This is back on 0.6.4, to be fair. They seem to be taking the right steps, but GeekLog *started* in the right place and is expanding into new features. This means that GeekLog gives me what I need NOW and will get back to the bells and whistles.

OK, I guess that\'s enough kissing-up. :) Seriously, though, I\'m very impressed and greatful. Now on to my requests....

I\'m trying to set up a school newspaper in my district\'s high school and middle school campus. It will be their intranet. GeekLog is a great fit, but the devil is in the details. We need a way to keep comment-abusers off the system while not ruining it for everyone else. Here\'s my thought on the subject:

- A regex (or simple domain name check) for the user\'s email address during account creation. If it doesn\'t match, they get an error message that explains what domain their address needs to include. If it matches, they can get it.

- A way to block access without changing the password (which the user can reset) or deleting the account (which would allow them to open a new account). The groups code can do this, right?

As an alternate idea to the above, abstracting the authentication code from the core and then allowing an IMAP authentication handler would be pretty cool. Fewer passwords to remember and an easier intranet to deploy.

Another request: The ability to require logins for voting in a poll. Add to this a loging of who voted. No more stuffed ballot boxes means that we could use it for class president elections, mock political elections, opinion polls, etc.

Now for a simple request: Change the Classic theme to use the site-name variable instead of a GIF file. This would make all themes usable without modification. As it stands now, the Classic theme can not be used \"out of the box\" because it states \"GeekLog\" at the top and 99.9% of sites run on the GeekLog software don\'t actually want that fact to be more prominent than the name of their own site. :)

One school's wish list

Authored by: shinji on Saturday, March 19 2005 @ 01:40 pm EST

The regex on the email address. I hope that isn't going to be something like what gamefaqs has on their site with registration. They have various levels but one involves the email address and domain checking it against the reverse-dns of the ip you are coming from. The problem with this is that alot of people won't pass this check. If this is something that can be turned off then that is fine because I won't use it.

I.E. I use shinji000@uplink.net for my email address (Earthlink owned domain) but my ip reverse-dns is nas3.philadelphia1.pa.us.da.qwest.net. It will prompt for an email address ending in qwest.net?

Request for PhpWiki

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Wednesday, January 16 2002 @ 10:31 pm EST

A few suggestions as to what I and maybe others would like to see:

- Add phpWiki as a module (http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwiki/)

- Add a photo gallery
One that I have been testing and is quite impressive is the \'Gallery\' at http://gallery.sourceforge.net.

Keep up the awesome work!

Geeklog 1.3 vs. Other Weblogs

Authored by: shinji on Friday, March 18 2005 @ 08:17 pm EST

This weblog is excellent. Even the current version is fast. It is alot faster than some of the others that I have tried being php-nuke and integramod. BTW, both of them are phpBB derivatives. Both are slow (5 seconds for page-generation) and both are memory hogs (php.ini adjustment to increase memory limit to 16M from default 8M). Geeklog is more secure than both of those (Geeklog data files are outside web document root) and faster ( <1 second page-generation) and not a memory hog (able to run within 8M memory limit). It even has a plugin for downloads (Easyfile) that lets me keep the downloads outside the document root. The Filemgmt didn't do that as far as I could tell. Took me 15 minutes and I was up and running. The site is still a WIP but here is mine.

http://shinji.chaosnet.org/

Geeklog 1.3 vs. Other Weblogs

Authored by: shinji on Saturday, March 19 2005 @ 12:51 pm EST

A working XML-RPC interface (the Blog This! plugin wasn't working for me) and the ability to "ping" other sites like Feedburner are a must for me now. I am looking into some other ones for the time being. I understand the second one will be in Geeklog 2 so someone let me know when betas start becoming available? I can always wait on XML-RPC functionality.

Geeklog 1.3 vs. Other Weblogs

Authored by: Dirk on Saturday, March 19 2005 @ 02:11 pm EST

Can we move this to the forums, please, instead of adding comments on a 4(!) years old story? Thanks ...

bye, Dirk

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