LOL, this guy is a fool, the first CMS I learned to use was geeklog and I found it easy to use, and I had no prior knowledge of Gekklog, PHP or mySQL, sure it has its flaws, but all programs do, the only way you can get something to do exactly what you want is to design it yourself (or cheat like I eventually did, I hacked Geeklog and PHP-nuke together, not the most elegant solution but one that worked!). And I can guarantee you guys the support I received from the geeklog guys was 100% better than that of PHP-nuke.

Respect to Tony, holding his peace while he's entiled to flame, and for him having the time and courtesy to reply to this ridiculous rant.
And of course respect to all the GL contributors, I'm one of thos GL users who have a fully working system, just to be proud to have it, just to see an OpenSource project in such a fine state, to hell with content!

Grz, Okki!

this is a example of one static pages holding all the static pages i have! you can make use of it to do articles like i do with a table of content! quit whinning!---http://www.etegration.com http://www.itcow.com

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Michael, My advice is to go back to school and learn grammar and spelling. There is only one thing worse than a whinger, a whinger who has no mastery of the language in which they choose to whinge. It undermines any shred of credibility (notwithstanding any shred of logic) they purport within there argument. cheers steve.

The funny thing is I too have been in HTML for years and came upon GL sorts of by accident while looking for a better way to do a multi page site w/o the hassel of coding hundreds of pages. I bought a book from Kevin Yank and one from Wrox to learn php. I got frustrated and sick of making "hello world" pages on my osX server. So I gave GL the good ol' college try. I must say people like Squatty and TomW have been more the paitent with my neophiteass and are getting my php feet wet. I love the way this community is so helpful. Sure I would too love to see better documentation and will someday my part to see that aspect of this through. Hell I can't code yet but i can make docs to respew what i learnd setting up gl and its various plugins. What a nervy tyhing to dis the coolest opensource project on terra firma. Look I still havent got my static pages thingy to work that well either but by no means wish to beeatch and moan about it. I'll just wait. Hey I am learning a lot about php just reading all the post and from people like squatty, blaine, tomw, and Dirk. OK I said my stupid peice. Thanks to all of you who make geeklog great. I vote the first Geeklog Convention to be here in Hawaii with me. I'll make the Mai Tai's. Just don't invite that A$$hole. Aloha, DocRock http://www.infophreak.com

Well my two cents is pretty much echoing what has been said here already but because I believe in GL and will donate every bit of Monopoly money I have (since I have no real money to speak of) I thought I would hold up my sign that says "GL ROCKS". Nowhere else in cyberspace have I ever found a more helpful, patient, generous group of open source developers that have held my hand and walked me through even the most basic tasks to get GL fine tuned for my purpose. People who rely on glitzy graphical layouts to lure users to return to their site simply will never be happy with a product that requires content. And even then, his users will eventually see that there is no substance to his site and take their browsers elswewhere. The bottom line? Geeklog is the best "content management" application out there - free or otherwise - and if you ain't got content to manage you have no right to complain. Keep up the awesome work, GL developers!

Someone mentioned good translations of documentations, etc. are missing? I'm a translator with some time off in between, if you guys ever need some help, feel free to ask! Best regards, ~chrissy~ Office@translation-now.net

What i would like to point out is that alot of people who create sites spend hours upon hours making nice wizzy graphics.. which is all nice and that, but those sites lack content. Infact most of the websites on the internet lack good content. A CMS provides you with the ability to provide content, in a easy to access, and easy to manipulate and edit the content. To me a plain old boring white webpage, with non or little graphics and a heap of information is a better site than a site done in flash, made to look awesome, but with nothing really to actually look at apart from the graphics.

I'd also like to point out, that if your having a problem with the documentation, you can always read on other sites about geeklog, read on here, and use the famous tool called a search engine. Before you start saying how crap the documentation is. I think the documentation is good. I managed to get geeklog installed without problems, and so did loads of other people.

If you want to have the best of both worlds, i suggest you stick with something like geeklog, and look at the various plugins and extras for it. Other than that, you could just go back to frontpage and create everything by yourself.

Anyway, my site is www.bastardlabs.co.uk it has content, i shall, when i get time, make my own theme and contribute it to geeklog.net. Its about time people like yourself, stop just taking the free programs and whining at everyone when they cannot get it working. The information is there, if you can be bothered actually finding it.. This isn't a £200 microsoft product that has a nice little book that comes with it, on the other hand, it doesn't have as many problems as a £200 quid microsoft product.

Regards

Steve