How would i make a .php file that would include the header, fooder, and blocks, but leave the middle area open for me to do what ever i please with? I have seen staticpages, but they wont work because they only allow some HTML and also hae strange urls.

Hmm, at the bottom of the static pages editor, it says "all HTML allowed" - which tags give you problems there? Anway, you could make your own pages wrapped into Geeklog like this: <?php require_once ('lib-common.php'); echo COM_siteHeader ('menu'); echo COM_startBlock ("Some title"; // optional - will wrap your page in a block ?> <!-- your HTML stuff here --> <?php echo COM_endBlock(); // again, optional echo COM_siteFooter(); >? bye, Dirk

Alright, thanks alot. one more question. echo COM_siteHeader ('menu'); That is what puts the header file in right? if i make a header file called header2.thml how can i include it?

That, I'm afraid, is not so easy ...

If you want to do that, you would need to clone the function COM_siteHeader() from lib-common.php.

bye, Dirk