The question is, if you are planning to use Geeglog for a new website is it worth waiting a couple more weeks for the release of 1.3?

The new version looks to be major in terms of structure and it isn't obvious whether the upgrade path will be easy for current users.

For someone like myself who could wait the extra couple of weeks before I even start on a new site it would be great to hear the developers comments on this.

Okay, there are two things to note. Firstly, there WILL be a full upgrade path from 1.x across to 1.3 - and we're looking to ensure all the previous problems (like the anon user issues) are as complete as they can be. Those of you who had a customised environment will need (of course) to alter the 1.3 install to suit their specific look and feel, but the data will be shunted into the new 1.3 version. Secondly, if you can wait, then do! 1.3 is a serious update to 1.2, and extends the power, security and features of GL to new heights. Moving a 1.2 install into 1.3 will touch only half the potential of 1.3, so if you are able to wait for 1.3, then do! We will have a 1.3 beta out within the next two weeks, for all and sundry to test out. We need everyone we can to get involved with the beta test, so we can get a feature freeze in place and iron the final bugs out. As GL 1.3 has been either rewritten or reformatted in total, there are the occasional bug - because it's been reformatted or rewritten, it's VERY simple to repair it. So, the upshot? If you have to deploy, go for 1.2.5.1 currently. If you can wait, wait for the 1.3 beta to test the app AND your implementation of the app, and wait for the 1.3 release. If 1.3 beta turns out as well as I suspect it will, I will supply an upgrade from 1.3 beta to 1.3 final -- IF the beta is as stable as I think.

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I tried to check it out, but anonymous login is blocked. Is that on purpose ? cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.GeekLog.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/geeklog login cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.Geeklog.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/geeklog co geeklog-1.3 - Daniel

Wait... if everything is database driven - how can upgrading 1.2 to 1.3 half the potential? Rather, I don't understand how an upgraded system would differ from a fresh install? I mean, in the worst case, I could keep hacking at the database until it works right -dd

It is hard for me to explain what 1.3 will bring you all but if you can wait do. If you can help test the beta then please do. My biggest concern is having enough help testing all the new features. --Tony

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Sign me up to help with the beta test. I'm looking at systems for a client which will give them a CM type system without shelling out the bucks for Vignette or something silly like that. I'm very impressed with what I see so far. John

I am currently using GL 1.2.5-1 on my personal site, and do not really want to wait 2 weeks+ to get it running on another site I have. I am a bit confused about the 1.2 -> 1.3 upgrade only giving you 1/2 the benefits. Could you expand on this? As long as most of the content on a 1.2.5-1 site is upgradable to 1.3, then I will be happy. Also, put me down for the beta test :-)

Okay, let be define it. My starting with a scratch copy of 1.3 will allow you to define your site from the bottom up, including the *way* you build your site. Importing a 1.2.x across to 1.3 will import your data ... which will only fit 1/2 the potential of an ENTIRE 1.3 install. Guys, you can still ADD to your new 1.3 to use all the features - it's not like they're locked off! I mean, does 1.2.x install use themes, templates, and multiple db's? No, hench, these features will not be imported to 1.3! That's all I meant ... One point is, people build a "concept" of the site also, a plan of what you want vs what the webapp can provide. Your site is a reprentation of that plan. With new (and significant) alterations to the number and depth of features, the original plan can alter also. Our plan is to import the data across. Simple. The rest is in your hands.

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well i hope i can still use the language file, because i'm working at it but its quite big, and if i can't use it anymore with 1.3 then i'll stop translating it ofcourse now. please reply quick spacey@scholieren.com

Well, the 1.3 language will WILL be different. If your translating the 1.2.5 file, its sorta ok, but there are new fields to be added to work in 1.3 Also, the language file layout will most likely be changed from magic numbers to more descriptive. I can't really explain it just now, as its not been fully decided yet. But your effort will not be totally wasted.

Awesome... That makes sense... Thanks for clearing up my misconceptions... :-)

OK, you are signed up. I hope to get a BETA out sometime next week.

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We are going to improve how the language file is handled. Currently the language file has multiple entries for the same text in a number of places making the file very bloated. We have a number of ideas of how to fix this but we are saving this for last as the functionality is the key focus now. Once we get most of the themes/plugins/security tested and get closer to a release we will get this cleaned-up and out in time for you all to make your translations.

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